Talk:Murder of Vanessa Guillén

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George Floyd?

More than once, the George Floyd article has been added as a "See also" link at the bottom of this article, as seen here. Does anyone know what the purported connection between Vanessa Guillén and George Floyd would be in this regard? AzureCitizen (talk) 02:14, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sexual assault category

@CookieMonster755: I noticed you added back the sexual assault category a few minutes ago after I swapped it out the other day with the sexual harassment category. From what I understand, Guillen told her family she was being sexual harassed and was going to report the offender (presumably Robinson, who the family believes killed her after she confronted him about reporting him on 22 April), but did not allege that he had sexually assaulted her. Can you explain the rationale for adding the sexual assault category? Thanks, AzureCitizen (talk) 16:01, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article currently includes the text 'CID reported that they found no evidence that Guillén was assaulted', so it does seem slightly odd at the moment, unless further facts emerge suggesting that sexual assault was a factor in this case. Robofish (talk) 23:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll remove the category for now, pending further comments or developments in the reporting here. Thanks, AzureCitizen (talk) 23:54, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Murder Category

There is a conversation about whether or not categorizing this and many other articles as murder is appropriate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2021_Atlanta_spa_shootings#Category:murder I welcome anyone's input.Yousef Raz (talk) 21:22, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resistance to investigation is not mentioned

I looked up this article because of the VanessaGuillen meme on the internet, which is all about the institutionalized attempts to bury this case without investigation. This article does not even hint at this aspect of it. The article, as it stands, appears to be a poster child about a murder that prompted a forthcoming investigation which successfully dealt with a toxic community where sexual harassment was acceptable.

because the conspiracy theories being pushed on social media didn’t actually exist?

Besides, it is covered in he article. "her mother told reporters she did not trust the U.S. Army's handling of the investigation, and her attorney, Natalie Khawam,[15] said she believed the family was "being kept in the dark"[14] because few details had been released regarding Guillén's disappearance." JeffUK (talk) 17:35, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Killing vs murder

Shouldn't the article be at killing of Vanessa Guillén, since the perpetrator was not convicted in court because he committed suicide? cookie monster 755 18:29, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Murder is defined as homicide involving intent and premeditation; your point about the title is valid. There is a question about whether the killing was murder.Parkwells (talk) 20:18, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Legislation and Executive Order

Added content to article about legislation, both state and federal, and Executive Order that have been passed following the military, FBI and civil investigations and findings about Guillen's death, the military justice system, and systemic issues of sexual harassment and assault in the military. Both state and federal legislation has been named after Guillen, indicating what a catalyst her death and her family's activism have been in making changes. Congressional representatives and senators have also worked on these issues for years. I will also add more about this to the Lede of the article. Parkwells (talk) 20:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Debunked Trump statements regarding Vanessa Guillèn

Anonymous sources reportedly told The Atlantic that Trump defamed Vanessa by telling Mark Meadows she was a “fucking Mexican.” In a statement to The Atlantic, a spokesperson for Meadows denied that this ever happened. Meadows later confirmed that it never happened himself on his X account. Trump spokesperson Alex Pheiffer also stated “this is an outrageous lie from The Atlantic two weeks before the election.” With her funeral occurring nearly 4 years ago, the presidential election only 2 weeks away as of now, and the owner of The Atlantic being a donor to the Kamala Harris campaign, all signs point to this being nothing more than a partisan political hit piece meant to influence the upcoming election. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/?taid=6717ffe956474d000110c05d&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=true-anthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter TruthTeller69420 (talk) 21:51, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This section is written badly and should be rewritten giving better context, and citations as well as less POV Rootless Co$mopolitan (talk) 22:40, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not "debunked", though of course mention could be made of it being disputed. Nezac (talk) 23:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One reference should NOT be enough to slander a candidate for President just before an election about something that (even if true) happened years ago. Paulsnx2 (talk) 00:57, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not debunked because there is nothing to debunk. The only "evidence" offered is hearsay from nameless bureaucrats. That's not something that can be proven wrong, and the extraordinary allegations shouldn't be accepted as reality without some extraordinary evidence. Jayelljaytoo (talk) 21:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]